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crank wrote:
12 Nov 2020, 23:44
artibus wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 19:57

Sorry man....100K due to OT? You just lost me there. :roll: Ain't happening at any agency I'm aware of! Even Captains with 20 + years service aren't in that pay grade.
I'm afraid you're mistaken. It really is happening... It isn't just police, either. A number of firefighters I know are earning close to $150K with base pay being only about half that amount.

There are a number of public sources of information which disclose the pay of police officers which break down their base pay and separate overtime pay. The man who lives behind me is a retired police detective. He retired at 55 (last year). The database shows he earned $>105K. I have not included his information in order to avoid disclosing my own identity though it is public information. You will likely be able to look similar information for your local police force.

Here is just the top guy in Milwaukee:
Name: WASHINGTON,RODNEY B
Title: POLICE SERGEANT
Department: POLICE DEPARTMENT
Employment type: Full Time
Hire date: 11/16/1998

Hourly rate: $47.88
Gross pay: $188,503
Overtime/comp pay: $102,889
Vacation time buyout: $0
Sick time buyout: $0
https://projects.jsonline.com/database/ ... -2019.html

James Wheeler is a police Capt. in Madison, WI who earned >$162,000
https://govsalaries.com/wheeler-james-56381951

Bee Xiong a police officer in Madison, WI - $147,340
https://govsalaries.com/xiong-bee-56382441

There are more in the database which can be searched here: (sorry I didn't know how to format it better.)
https://projects.jsonline.com/database/ ... -2019.html

Name Title Department Gross pay Overtime/comp
WASHINGTON,RODNEY B POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $188,503 $102,889
JACK,RICHARD R POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $181,116 $87,338
EMMONS,LAFAYETTE J POLICE OFFICER POLICE DEPARTMENT $178,242 $93,378
YAGHNAM,WESAM F POLICE LIEUTENANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $173,675 $61,369
PAGACZ,MARCIN S POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $173,569 $73,536
POLICE LIEUTENANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $172,736 $64,389
MOEWS,CHRISTOPHER A POLICE LIEUTENANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $171,170 $65,263
X,JUTIKI POLICE OFFICER POLICE DEPARTMENT $170,330 $87,360
FELSMAN,KRISTIN K POLICE LIEUTENANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $167,951 $60,575
SOUSEK,GREGORY K POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $166,932 $69,887
MUNOZ JR,ANGEL L POLICE OFFICER (Z) POLICE DEPARTMENT $166,670 $92,439
SEBESTYEN,JUSTIN J POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $166,631 $72,938
JANKOWSKI,TROY K POLICE LIEUTENANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $166,104 $57,091
CAMPBELL,JAMES A CAPTAIN OF POLICE POLICE DEPARTMENT $165,260 $48,648
LOPEZ,JUAN A POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $163,660 $72,668
HARRIS,DERRICK L CAPTAIN OF POLICE POLICE DEPARTMENT $163,034 $22,708
ADENEKAN,TAYO F POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $162,930 $32,491
BERKEN,AARON G POLICE LIEUTENANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $162,246 $50,981
KULMANN,JOHN M POLICE OFFICER POLICE DEPARTMENT $161,802 $72,604
PRATCHET,DWAYNE S POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $161,533 $66,370
WARREN,JOSEPH R POLICE OFFICER POLICE DEPARTMENT $158,651 $71,673
COOK,JEFFREY J POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $158,631 $61,154
WILLIAMS,DELMAR E POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $157,869 $64,529
WAWRZYNIAKOWSKI,MICHAEL P POLICE OFFICER POLICE DEPARTMENT $157,781 $72,296
POPE JR,LAWRENCE E POLICE OFFICER POLICE DEPARTMENT $157,155 $73,778


As an aside...If you really want to get pissed off, look at how much the state pays the coaches of the college football and basketball teams! Paul Chryst of the University of Wisconsin made $3.7 million in 2018 while the highest paid professor made $536,533.07!
Nowhere near that here. Good for them, Absolutely agree 100% regarding coaches salaries, but it's relevant (I suppose) to what the respective programs are generating. Makes me wish my daughter was coaching QB's as opposed to teaching 5th grade but she's enjoying her gig, and that's cool. I still pay her car insurance and her lawn maintenance lol. :wink:
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^Coaches salaries are horrible when you consider players bring in billions and make a "free education."
Not a fair trade at all but thankfully for CA that is about to change and players will start to be able to use their likeness to make money.
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kensrs wrote:
21 Nov 2020, 05:04
^Coaches salaries are horrible when you consider players bring in billions and make a "free education."
Not a fair trade at all but thankfully for CA that is about to change and players will start to be able to use their likeness to make money.
Way overdue. Another thing that gripes my ass is how coaches are allowed to leave without penalty but players have historically had to sit a year if they decide to transfer. The Transfer Portal, along with Covid-19 changes, has eased some of the restrictions and limitations on players, but it's still not anywhere near the same for players vs coaches making a change.
A few years ago, Roquan Smith was set to sign with UCLA on National Signing Day (already had the school colors on and was seated at the table with his family) when he got a last minute call (I think from his High School coach) telling him that the UCLA assistant who'd been recruiting him heavily had already taken a job with the Atlanta Falcons without so much as even bothering to tell Roquan he wouldn't be coaching him. Smith instead signed with Georgia.
Hypocritical as hell, IMO, for a player to be penalized for four games, such as Todd Gurley (who was raised in a rural poor setting) was at Georgia, for selling a jersey to make a few bucks while Coaches make millions on endorsements alone.
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