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kensrs wrote:
07 Jul 2020, 08:29
^ <3 it
Nice to have a normal conversation and both side show respect, def needed more in this climate.
I went to ATL a few times and not being racist with this statement but the main thing I remember is just outside the city every block it seemed like, even in residential there was a church and a waffle house, lmfao... I was like these people love Jesus and waffles.
In ATL I've met some of the nicest people I've met, but also seen some really bad racist things in SW Georgia as I had family in Dawson for awhile which is a small town. This was years ago but broke my heart seeing some of that shit, really hope its changed and everyone can view each other as people and not care about color, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, job, etc.... because end of the day none of that shit really matters.

Really hope you are safe down there.

Can I ask what protocalls do cops have to take with covid when it comes to traffic stops and day to day work?
Luckily (knock on wood) I have been good at not being pulled over in like 10 years (I'm the asshole who drives 5 below the speed limit, I've gone so fast in cars for such a big portion of my life, I got nothing to prove) but just not sure what is expected of me to ensure the safety of the officer. My assumption is leave hands on wheel, wait for cop, then ask for permission to grab mask, and gloves (I keep them in my car for ATM/gas pumps) then hand papers and ID over with mask and glove on to protect the officer but no clue on your end what officers can do to stay safe out there while interacting with so many civilians on a day to day basis.

When the strip was shut down in Vegas (will happen again at this rate) it was dead for weeks but i'd ride bike on it, then everyon did and it was basically just a bike trail on the sidewalks and LV Blvd which was cool because I've never been able to just ride a bike up and down where there would normally be 100's of thousands if not a million people hanging out. When I did it early on there was almost no one and cops out numbers people 5-1, so I got a chance to talk to a few and had some good talks but that was before much was known so conversation was basically about how bored they are and how nice it is to talk to people (we kept distance and wore masks). Other than that haven't talked to many officers since softball out here is shut down and that is normally where I could sit and have in depth conversations on the topic, in Vegas that is my connection to cops but in other states I know more.

Your personal protocol is absolutely spot on, especially keeping both hands on the steering wheel in plain view and waiting for instructions.
The officer most likely will be wearing a mask and gloves when he approaches your vehicle and he will be keeping a safe distance from your window. After initial contact is made is the perfect time to ask if he/she minds if you put on a mask and gloves. The only thing I'd add is that people be mindful (as you obviously are) of the fact that that officer is at least twice as nervous as you are when they are approaching your vehicle. They are almost completely vulnerable to who and what is inside that vehicle, and they know it. People who have dark tinted glass and/or windows rollled up when the officer approaches should have the window down. Be sure and advise the officer if you need to reach for something (mask, gloves, paperwork, etc) BEFORE reaching and while keeping your hands on the wheel until directed otherwise. Above all, remember that the officer is a human being same as you , and feels nervousness same as you. Training and Professionalism are huge and the vast majority of officers have both. That said, they are also trained to stay alive, and "watch those hands" is part of that training. Getting pulled over is not one of life's joys (yeah it sucks) but it happens. Doesn't make you a criminal, and trust me the officer doesn't look at you as one either. They want to get it over with too, particularly if the weather sucks, and get you on your way. They are not judge or jury, and the side of the road is not the place for argument or debate. Even if you feel like you're getting a raw deal, save it and go to court.
One more important note..concealed carry is overwhelmingly growing, and is overwhelmingly supported by Law Enforcement. My wife and daughter both have permits to carry a weapon. Some States require that you notify an officer if you are stopped, others do not. Some States in fact have automatic notification that shows up when your tag is run. I would encourage you to notify immediately. It sets the stage of communication and trust and is appreciated.
Cops appreciate a citizen who realizes it is a job that has to be done, and who also realize that all of the emotions, yes including fear, that everyday people have are certainly part of the makeup of being an officer. Human beings interacting with kindness and understanding towards each other.

You get it kensrs. Thanks man.
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This is a time when someone screams racist, it is like the jarring report of a gunshot. Everyone is fearful, running from it, seeking a place to hide. It is all too reminiscent of another time with the accusing and destructive word communist. Then, as now, a word could bring a lot of grief to someone, not always justified.

U.S. Sen. Joseph R. McCarthy once sought to expose any communists among us, real or imagined. It was a witch-hunt and it destroyed friendships, reputations and careers. Hollywood became a target and many of its artistic contributors fell victim to fear and self-preservation, pitting one against another. In time, people grew tired of this obvious red-baiting agenda and what it was doing to the country and wisely put an end to it.

Some of the news-making accusations alleging racism appear more tactical than truthful. Something from the past, real or rumor, can become like blood in the water, causing sharks to gather. It seems a frequent ploy, opportunistic, disingenuous, a feint to gain some end. It has been effective in attacks on individuals, businesses and institutions.

There are those most eager to exploit and cash in on the sensational rather than explore the sensible. Too many already have their minds made up in a rush to judgment.

“Communist” grabbed and held the headlines back then as “racist” does today. Less is said of people, unjustly labeled as communist or racist, suffering another sort of victimization.
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Interesting thread for a hairfetish forum lol
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a96 wrote:
14 Jul 2020, 20:12
Interesting thread for a hairfetish forum lol
Yep it is. Just goes to show that us hair freaks come in all shapes and sizes.
Sit back and just picture in your mind a group together including everything from Wall Street types to some who are covered in tattoos and piercings....and a broad assortment of individuals in between. That's our happy :lol: family.
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William wrote:
04 Jul 2020, 15:54
I am creating this thread for all discussions related to the BLM movement so you have a place to collect all your thoughts and feelings.
I'm so glad this is here. It's such an important cause and only the most ignorant would deny people of color the right to be heard. I'm 100% in solidarity with eveything BLM!
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fastmandan88 wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 06:45
Count me out if they don't believe in two parents (gay or straight is fine with me) taking care of their own children:

https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/
We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.
Also the "donation" button for BLM goes to ActBlue which is a DEMOCRAT fundraising website. In 2020 the top two donations that ActBlue was the middleman for have been Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders. Go ask BLM supporters themselves and they are scratching their heads about where exactly all that money small donors and corporate donors are going to. They have no fricking clue where that money goes. I got the answer: Joe Biden and the DNC.

Those Democrat-owned "factcheckers" you will see on Google are full of shit, btw. The DNC itself isn't officially involved in handling the money but ActBlue is like a SuperPAC which is kind of a middleman that handles funds behind-the-scenes.

BLM (UK branch) is blatantly anti-Semitic and even normies over there are bailing on BLM UK.

https://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/artic ... itic-tweet

Police brutality is an issue. But it doesn't mean BLM is the only way to solve it. Especially if they want us to trust the same Democrats that gave us the Biden Crime Bill of 1994 which heavily expanded the construction of prisons and sent many more African Americans to prisons for minor drug crimes and other minor crimes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_C ... cement_Act

Senator Joe Biden drafted the Senate version of the legislation in cooperation with National Association of Police Officers president Joe Scotto. According to the Washington Post, Biden later described their involvement: “You guys sat at that conference table of mine for a six-month period, and you wrote the bill.”
I think BLM will help beat police brutality. These people are doing everything and standing up to these killers. There absolutely does need to be gun control, especially when it comes to trigger happy cops, but all people like yourself think is "bUt muH sEKund aMenDmUnt".
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IF one would research BLM leadership, you will find that they are spiritists who worship demonic entities (Their own words & video showing them trying to conjure up demonic spirits for their cause). These leaders have proclaimed their Marxist views & that they would burn the nation down to rule over the ashes of American society! They did the same to Venezuela, Russia & the like of many dictatorships. Here's the simple truth: 5-10% of the elitists live well, while the rest of the populations suffer shortages & limited resources like healthcare, toilet paper & even bread! Funny, but sad that the Communists in the 1960-70's said that "We can stir the pot & get the younger generation to believe in love & peace, & they will implode on their own!" They said that we were beginning to implode by the wide use of psychotic drugs & other drug use. The only thing that stopped the full board imploding was a Religious move that happened to save America then. Reagan & Prayer brought down the Soviet/Marxist empire that controlled people's lives & gave them Freedom.
Today is my Father's 97th Birthday. He fought in WW II to keep us safe from German Nazism or as they called it then (What the left says is good in America today) Democratic Socialism, sharing the wealth. Some of the same tactics that the Nazi's used then are employed today on college campuses & beyond. Beating anyone who did not agree with Nazi propaganda...the promise of a greater Germany with Socialism that all are equal. They burned & pillaged businesses with anything that did not fit their World View. They beat police or anyone who was in authority that did not honor the Nazi's. Hitler gave "speed" drugs to fuel himself & the soldiers above & beyond their natural abilities until their bodies started being so demanding on them. When they invaded Russia, many of them died on drug binges to keep going into the seemingly endless winter where many froze to death for the 'Elite of the Reich" & promises of glory they never experienced!
It's time to see the anarchists (A lot of rich kids that have no values of fulfilling life), BLM & those that are anti-American for who they really are. Just imagine that you are a group that would burn down your community for a cause. Like the Watts riots of the 60's, they Rodney King riots or today's violence. Many Black businesses of good black folks who worked hard to build up a business in the Black communities, have been burned & pillaged of their life savings. These are the reason why so many do not want to loan $$$ to these good folks because of this. Then you get folks on the left (a whole fake platform) saying we want to build up the & lend to poor minority communities! Then they support the the burning of of these anarchists...who we see stealing even washers & dryers on a stolen hand truck!!! Sadly, 70% of the Black/poor community lost jobs or these mom & pop businesses that they worked hard to create are now gone. Most all of these businesses will never come back again...Detroit, S. Central LA, Baltimore are just a few examples of places that have been trashed & torched that have never come back!
Sadly, the old Jewish Holocaust survivors have exposed the left for all of the same things that led up to the Nazi takeover in the 1930's. They see the same policies of wanting to take guns away from the public saying they will protect us...from who? them? No...or the silence of any speech of those who disagree with them or the control of your life to so-called protecting them! Yes, we have wiped out our real history from our schools & colleges to promote another agenda! History...a subject we study to remember our past failures, so we do not repeat them again! Funny, in Germany they do not deny the Holocaust & are taught their insidious past, as well as the Socialist Soviet takeover of E. Germany to never ever repeat it again!!!
Just watch the beutiful women of "Kazakhstan Protest Headshaves" on the Headshave" Buzzcut Videos section this video of what we will experience in America IF we continue down this road...
God have mercy on America as we self destruct & call it a cause for equality...
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...what?
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It must be 4:20 pm when mercury22 typed that up.

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Hahahaha! If that guy isn’t joking, boy what a nut job!
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bangs-cutter wrote:
05 Nov 2020, 16:50
It must be 4:20 pm when mercury22 typed that up.

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Nah, he's just in retrograde
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mercury22 wrote:
05 Nov 2020, 16:03
IF one would research BLM leadership, you will find that they are spiritists who worship demonic entities (Their own words & video showing them trying to conjure up demonic spirits for their cause). These leaders have proclaimed their Marxist views & that they would burn the nation down to rule over the ashes of American society! They did the same to Venezuela, Russia & the like of many dictatorships. Here's the simple truth: 5-10% of the elitists live well, while the rest of the populations suffer shortages & limited resources like healthcare, toilet paper & even bread! Funny, but sad that the Communists in the 1960-70's said that "We can stir the pot & get the younger generation to believe in love & peace, & they will implode on their own!" They said that we were beginning to implode by the wide use of psychotic drugs & other drug use. The only thing that stopped the full board imploding was a Religious move that happened to save America then. Reagan & Prayer brought down the Soviet/Marxist empire that controlled people's lives & gave them Freedom.
Today is my Father's 97th Birthday. He fought in WW II to keep us safe from German Nazism or as they called it then (What the left says is good in America today) Democratic Socialism, sharing the wealth. Some of the same tactics that the Nazi's used then are employed today on college campuses & beyond. Beating anyone who did not agree with Nazi propaganda...the promise of a greater Germany with Socialism that all are equal. They burned & pillaged businesses with anything that did not fit their World View. They beat police or anyone who was in authority that did not honor the Nazi's. Hitler gave "speed" drugs to fuel himself & the soldiers above & beyond their natural abilities until their bodies started being so demanding on them. When they invaded Russia, many of them died on drug binges to keep going into the seemingly endless winter where many froze to death for the 'Elite of the Reich" & promises of glory they never experienced!
It's time to see the anarchists (A lot of rich kids that have no values of fulfilling life), BLM & those that are anti-American for who they really are. Just imagine that you are a group that would burn down your community for a cause. Like the Watts riots of the 60's, they Rodney King riots or today's violence. Many Black businesses of good black folks who worked hard to build up a business in the Black communities, have been burned & pillaged of their life savings. These are the reason why so many do not want to loan $$$ to these good folks because of this. Then you get folks on the left (a whole fake platform) saying we want to build up the & lend to poor minority communities! Then they support the the burning of of these anarchists...who we see stealing even washers & dryers on a stolen hand truck!!! Sadly, 70% of the Black/poor community lost jobs or these mom & pop businesses that they worked hard to create are now gone. Most all of these businesses will never come back again...Detroit, S. Central LA, Baltimore are just a few examples of places that have been trashed & torched that have never come back!
Sadly, the old Jewish Holocaust survivors have exposed the left for all of the same things that led up to the Nazi takeover in the 1930's. They see the same policies of wanting to take guns away from the public saying they will protect us...from who? them? No...or the silence of any speech of those who disagree with them or the control of your life to so-called protecting them! Yes, we have wiped out our real history from our schools & colleges to promote another agenda! History...a subject we study to remember our past failures, so we do not repeat them again! Funny, in Germany they do not deny the Holocaust & are taught their insidious past, as well as the Socialist Soviet takeover of E. Germany to never ever repeat it again!!!
Just watch the beutiful women of "Kazakhstan Protest Headshaves" on the Headshave" Buzzcut Videos section this video of what we will experience in America IF we continue down this road...
God have mercy on America as we self destruct & call it a cause for equality...
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Trump lost so hopefully we can return to some semblance of sanity now.
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The world will be a safer, happier place now that Biden has won. The anger will die down. The world will now see that black lives truly DO matter! There IS a God!
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I'm not American, so I couldn't decide on it anyway. Neither candidate is appealing. Voters in the US again are in a catch 22 situation, forced to choose between the lesser of two evils, a repeat of 2016. If Biden had faced any other opponent other than the controversial Trump, he would have been crushed. I sense a significant proportion voted against Trump more than they voted for Biden.

On the fun side of things, what a shame. I've enjoyed the dumpster fire comedic reality show that is "The Orange Man in the White House". I was hoping for a sequel, but they cancelled the show, and we will now get a new show, "Boring Old Joe" instead. Far less entertaining. :lol:
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Biden4Pres wrote:
07 Nov 2020, 23:00
The world will be a safer, happier place now that Biden has won. The anger will die down. The world will now see that black lives truly DO matter! There IS a God!
The whole, entire world?

Wow.
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Tizona wrote:
08 Nov 2020, 10:50
Biden4Pres wrote:
07 Nov 2020, 23:00
The world will be a safer, happier place now that Biden has won. The anger will die down. The world will now see that black lives truly DO matter! There IS a God!
The whole, entire world?

Wow.
A good bit of an overhype, but I could agree that the world will SEEM a safer place now. I mean, having a guy like Trump run one of the two most powerful countries in the world WAS making people nervous. Which had a good bit of negative consequences.
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scissortooth wrote:
08 Nov 2020, 12:53
Tizona wrote:
08 Nov 2020, 10:50
Biden4Pres wrote:
07 Nov 2020, 23:00
The world will be a safer, happier place now that Biden has won. The anger will die down. The world will now see that black lives truly DO matter! There IS a God!
The whole, entire world?

Wow.
A good bit of an overhype, but I could agree that the world will SEEM a safer place now. I mean, having a guy like Trump run one of the two most powerful countries in the world WAS making people nervous. Which had a good bit of negative consequences.
Well not the whole world. Britain is particularly screwed now. I hate to say it because I’m a bit of an Anglophile and love British pop culture, but man are they in the shit having left the largest trading block in the world with a mini-Trump leader, desperately hoping to do a deal with the US that would almost certainly have lowered food and drug standards while doing further damage to institutions like the NHS and Universities. Now any of those deals are in even more jeopardy. Biden being proudly of Irish decent makes it even harder for the British government to undo the Good Friday Agreement. And to cap it off, they are 4 years out from their next general election. Yikes!

Other than that, sure, a world without Trump is undoubtedly safer, whether you like to think America is relevant or not. I would argue that the world IS looking for America to throw more resources, expertise and collaborative presence into the COVID crisis and the environmental crisis. On both counts, things are thankfully looking up.
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artibus wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 19:57

Sorry man....100K due to OT? You just lost me there. :roll: Ain't happening at any agency I'm aware of! Even Captains with 20 + years service aren't in that pay grade.
I'm afraid you're mistaken. It really is happening... It isn't just police, either. A number of firefighters I know are earning close to $150K with base pay being only about half that amount.

There are a number of public sources of information which disclose the pay of police officers which break down their base pay and separate overtime pay. The man who lives behind me is a retired police detective. He retired at 55 (last year). The database shows he earned $>105K. I have not included his information in order to avoid disclosing my own identity though it is public information. You will likely be able to look similar information for your local police force.

Here is just the top guy in Milwaukee:
Name: WASHINGTON,RODNEY B
Title: POLICE SERGEANT
Department: POLICE DEPARTMENT
Employment type: Full Time
Hire date: 11/16/1998

Hourly rate: $47.88
Gross pay: $188,503
Overtime/comp pay: $102,889
Vacation time buyout: $0
Sick time buyout: $0
https://projects.jsonline.com/database/ ... -2019.html

James Wheeler is a police Capt. in Madison, WI who earned >$162,000
https://govsalaries.com/wheeler-james-56381951

Bee Xiong a police officer in Madison, WI - $147,340
https://govsalaries.com/xiong-bee-56382441

There are more in the database which can be searched here: (sorry I didn't know how to format it better.)
https://projects.jsonline.com/database/ ... -2019.html

Name Title Department Gross pay Overtime/comp
WASHINGTON,RODNEY B POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $188,503 $102,889
JACK,RICHARD R POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $181,116 $87,338
EMMONS,LAFAYETTE J POLICE OFFICER POLICE DEPARTMENT $178,242 $93,378
YAGHNAM,WESAM F POLICE LIEUTENANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $173,675 $61,369
PAGACZ,MARCIN S POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $173,569 $73,536
POLICE LIEUTENANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $172,736 $64,389
MOEWS,CHRISTOPHER A POLICE LIEUTENANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $171,170 $65,263
X,JUTIKI POLICE OFFICER POLICE DEPARTMENT $170,330 $87,360
FELSMAN,KRISTIN K POLICE LIEUTENANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $167,951 $60,575
SOUSEK,GREGORY K POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $166,932 $69,887
MUNOZ JR,ANGEL L POLICE OFFICER (Z) POLICE DEPARTMENT $166,670 $92,439
SEBESTYEN,JUSTIN J POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $166,631 $72,938
JANKOWSKI,TROY K POLICE LIEUTENANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $166,104 $57,091
CAMPBELL,JAMES A CAPTAIN OF POLICE POLICE DEPARTMENT $165,260 $48,648
LOPEZ,JUAN A POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $163,660 $72,668
HARRIS,DERRICK L CAPTAIN OF POLICE POLICE DEPARTMENT $163,034 $22,708
ADENEKAN,TAYO F POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $162,930 $32,491
BERKEN,AARON G POLICE LIEUTENANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $162,246 $50,981
KULMANN,JOHN M POLICE OFFICER POLICE DEPARTMENT $161,802 $72,604
PRATCHET,DWAYNE S POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $161,533 $66,370
WARREN,JOSEPH R POLICE OFFICER POLICE DEPARTMENT $158,651 $71,673
COOK,JEFFREY J POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $158,631 $61,154
WILLIAMS,DELMAR E POLICE SERGEANT POLICE DEPARTMENT $157,869 $64,529
WAWRZYNIAKOWSKI,MICHAEL P POLICE OFFICER POLICE DEPARTMENT $157,781 $72,296
POPE JR,LAWRENCE E POLICE OFFICER POLICE DEPARTMENT $157,155 $73,778


As an aside...If you really want to get pissed off, look at how much the state pays the coaches of the college football and basketball teams! Paul Chryst of the University of Wisconsin made $3.7 million in 2018 while the highest paid professor made $536,533.07!
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Biden4Pres wrote:
07 Nov 2020, 23:00
The world will be a safer, happier place now that Biden has won. The anger will die down. The world will now see that black lives truly DO matter! There IS a God!
Same places that posted "Silence=Violence" are now posting "Love your neighbor"

Well no shit! How about just stay the hell off my property and don't do anything to me or mine that you wouldn't want done to you or yours.
Otherwise? You might get a chance to see God quicker than you thought, courtesy of Speer Gold Dots 9mm, .40. and .45 (Speer Gold Dot ammo: Just like Hallmark Cards...."for when you care enough to send the very best")

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