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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by RitschRatsch » 22 Apr 2020, 17:20

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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by TB303 » 22 Apr 2020, 17:45

RitschRatsch wrote:
19 Apr 2020, 17:31
Among the Slavic people there is a tale of a poor peasant and his wife, whose small, stony soiled farm never produced as much as they or their many children needed, no matter how hard they worked. He was often forced to borrow money or even beg bread from a wealthy uncle, who never failed to berate his nephew for his laziness, offer only stale bread begrudgingly or charge him usirious interest, even though the uncle was so wealthy he could have easily provided enough for them all without even missing it.

One day, the peasant's wife was walking along the river on the way to wash clothes, when the bank gave way beneath her feet and she almost fell into the river, but saved herself by grabbing onto the edge of what she later discovered was an ancient metal chest that had been buried under the embankment. When she and her husband dug it out, they were delighted to find it was full of old gold coins.

So when the peasant showed up to pay off all his debts and interest, the uncle pressed him as to how he'd come by the money. Taking a close relation into his confidence, the peasant told the uncle of their amazing good fortune. But this only caused even more loathsome greed in the uncle, who went and killed and skinned a black goat so he might costume himself in it's hide and horns. Smearing soot on his face, he went after dark to his nephew's house and made terrible screams and cries and other fearful sounds outside of it, all while calling out: "I am the devil! Give me back my money!" This went on for several nights in a row, until the family was exhausted from lack of sleep and beside themselves with fear.

Then came the day a traveler happened by the little house and asked if they would be kind enough to spare a night's lodging. The peasant told him he was welcome, but warned him not to stay, because of the devil that came at night to torment them. But instead of making him afraid, this story only seemed to pique the traveler's curiosity to see this devil for himself. The family was grateful for the extra company.

When the night fell, the uncle returned in his disguise and they were all so frightened by this point, they picked up the chest of gold, ready to heave it out the window and rid themselves of this horror. But the traveler stopped them and, much to their shock, flung open the front door. Thinking his wicked scheme was finally working, the uncle rushed in to snatch up the money he so desired. But before he could reach it, the traveler blocked his way, seized him by the arms and said: "Brother! How fortunate to meet another of our kind by chance. Come, our master awaits us below!" And with that, the uncle and the traveler vanished in a flash of flame, smoke and brimstone. Neither was ever seen again and the family lived in ease and comfort for the rest of their days.

Now, although this story is a very old one, people aren't much different nowadays. Terrified of the false devil they think they see out of the window, folks will still invite the true devil into their home.
I am in the USA and had heard a similar story growing up. Good to hear the Slavic version. An important lesson there.

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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by TB303 » 22 Apr 2020, 17:51

I know I went full tin foil hat conspiracy theory earlier, but let's wait and see.

As for visiting other countries, agree with kensrs and others said. Most people I have met when traveling seem intrigued by those from the USA.
Lot's of misconceptions too. The only place I've caught any grief was ironically Amsterdam.

Happy 4/2020!

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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by kensrs » 22 Apr 2020, 18:53

TB303 wrote:
22 Apr 2020, 17:51
I know I went full tin foil hat conspiracy theory earlier, but let's wait and see.

As for visiting other countries, agree with kensrs and others said. Most people I have met when traveling seem intrigued by those from the USA.
Lot's of misconceptions too. The only place I've caught any grief was ironically Amsterdam.

Happy 4/2020!
My ex and I went to Indonesia and we told everyone we were from Canada as everyone loves Canadians. We ended up getting this cab driver who basically was our guide for the week and drove us everywhere for 8 hours a day or more at times. He asked where we were from and we said Canada but we didn't realize he was thinking of moving there and loves Canada. For the whole week he was asking us questions about Canada politics, TV shows, music, etc.... we luckily had google and acted like we were on our phones a lot in his car so we would google answers but it was pretty funny. Amazing people in SE Asia, some of the nicest people I have ever met in my life and most of them have nothing.

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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by artibus » 22 Apr 2020, 21:23

kensrs wrote:
22 Apr 2020, 18:53
TB303 wrote:
22 Apr 2020, 17:51
I know I went full tin foil hat conspiracy theory earlier, but let's wait and see.

As for visiting other countries, agree with kensrs and others said. Most people I have met when traveling seem intrigued by those from the USA.
Lot's of misconceptions too. The only place I've caught any grief was ironically Amsterdam.

Happy 4/2020!
My ex and I went to Indonesia and we told everyone we were from Canada as everyone loves Canadians. We ended up getting this cab driver who basically was our guide for the week and drove us everywhere for 8 hours a day or more at times. He asked where we were from and we said Canada but we didn't realize he was thinking of moving there and loves Canada. For the whole week he was asking us questions about Canada politics, TV shows, music, etc.... we luckily had google and acted like we were on our phones a lot in his car so we would google answers but it was pretty funny. Amazing people in SE Asia, some of the nicest people I have ever met in my life and most of them have nothing.
Why do I think the Taxi driver story :lol: would make a good Seinfeld episode? I agree with you about SE Asians too.

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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by RitschRatsch » 22 Apr 2020, 22:24

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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by Sijji22 » 23 Apr 2020, 05:10

I have been avoiding this thread until now as I was in the middle of COVID madness at work. Covid and my boss were stressing me out. Pleased to see that the tone has been sensible and evidence-based.

I'm from the UK and have been dealing with covid as a frontline internal medicine physician. I have seen 600 cases. Our government and public health authorities have royally messed up by not listening to WHO guidance. Getting a test is near impossible here. Even I had to fight to get mine as a staff menber. I have tested positive and am really angry. I've finished isolating and I have had two asthma attacks in quick succession. I alternative between anxiety and depression at home and am having telephone counselling to get over the worst - it is a PTSD situation waiting to happen. I'm really upset for the colleagues who died. 58 healthcare worker deaths were nonwhite like me - only 22 white patients died. 33pc of covid critical care deaths are nonwhite. We make up 10pc of the population here? We get it so much more severely and it is unclear why I am taking so much longer to recuperate from sickness than white colleagues.
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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by orangenoise » 23 Apr 2020, 05:47

Thank you for being on the front line. You are truly a hero. My prayers are with you and particularly those facing the virus on a daily basis. I'm in the US and each state is pretty much doing its own thing as far as social distancing and so forth. My state was very aggressive early on and we flattened the curve, so to speak. Now, there are protests to open up the state again. I fear that it's certainly not over and people don't really understand what they may get. Good Luck to you and thanks. Again, my prayers are with you.

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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by kensrs » 23 Apr 2020, 08:15

Sijji22 wrote:
23 Apr 2020, 05:10
I have been avoiding this thread until now as I was in the middle of COVID madness at work. Covid and my boss were stressing me out. Pleased to see that the tone has been sensible and evidence-based.

I'm from the UK and have been dealing with covid as a frontline internal medicine physician. I have seen 600 cases. Our government and public health authorities have royally messed up by not listening to WHO guidance. Getting a test is near impossible here. Even I had to fight to get mine as a staff menber. I have tested positive and am really angry. I've finished isolating and I have had two asthma attacks in quick succession. I alternative between anxiety and depression at home and am having telephone counselling to get over the worst - it is a PTSD situation waiting to happen. I'm really upset for the colleagues who died. 58 healthcare worker deaths were nonwhite like me - only 22 white patients died. 33pc of covid critical care deaths are nonwhite. We make up 10pc of the population here? We get it so much more severely and it is unclear why I am taking so much longer to recuperate from sickness than white colleagues.
First thanks for everything you and your colleagues do. Second sorry for your loss and you being sick yourself. Is it too much to ask what your symptoms are/were and how you are doing now?

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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by Sijji22 » 23 Apr 2020, 11:19

Sure. I had a productive cough, runny nose, chest pain on breathing in, a sore throat which didn't go for ten days, shortness of breath, fevers, muscle pains and debilitating fatigue. Asthma is wheeze, nocturnal cough and reduced exercise tolerance. I can normally walk for miles. Now out of breath on walking 200m or going up and down stairs.

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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by kensrs » 23 Apr 2020, 11:27

Sijji22 wrote:
23 Apr 2020, 11:19
Sure. I had a productive cough, runny nose, chest pain on breathing in, a sore throat which didn't go for ten days, shortness of breath, fevers, muscle pains and debilitating fatigue. Asthma is wheeze, nocturnal cough and reduced exercise tolerance. I can normally walk for miles. Now out of breath on walking 200m or going up and down stairs.
Yikes, when are you "allowed" back to work? Is it X amount of days after symptoms stop or what? Wasn't sure what they do since you havent been tested.

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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by Sijji22 » 23 Apr 2020, 12:33

Felt better at day 4. Went back to work at day 7 as back then the Public Health England advice was that you can return to work 48h post your last fever.
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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by Sijji22 » 23 Apr 2020, 12:34

I got tested. Covid positive on day 6. Got sick again on day 10. Had acute asthma day 14 and day 25.

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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by Sijji22 » 23 Apr 2020, 12:35

Allowed back to work when the occ health specialist clears me.

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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by ~svenhair » 23 Apr 2020, 13:19

I have a family member who got the acute asthma on day 6-7. Ex marine 30, hard body, MMA fighter. Flattened by this, it’s serious.

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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by Sijji22 » 23 Apr 2020, 22:31

Hope he feels better soon Sven

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Re: Coronavirus Thread

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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by fastmandan88 » 25 Apr 2020, 19:48

Pretty easy to pity the USA when it is completely transparent with their infected and death statistics.

Last time I checked the USA hasn't denied ventilators and treatment to people. In Europe they are rationing the healthcare as expected. They told Italian senior citizens to go die rather than treat them.

What happened to those "lack of ventilators crisis" and "lack of hospital beds crisis"? Did people just have amnesia over that after their alarmism and models completely failed? 5 million tests have been done in the USA. That is more than the rest of the world COMBINED.

Why is it that Cuomo asked for 40,000 ventilators and asked for all those emergency military hospitals and then now they are closing down all those military hospitals and Cuomo only needed 10,000 ventilators? He is giving his ventilators to other states.

Everybody really trusts the China numbers? 3,000 dead and 80,000 infected and then they stopped giving us updates in early February? Did China find the miracle cure or something?

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Re: Coronavirus Thread

Post by artibus » 25 Apr 2020, 21:46

Sijji22 wrote:
23 Apr 2020, 22:31
Hope he feels better soon Sven
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Re: Coronavirus Thread

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